Count of Ponthieu William III Talvas Montgomerie

Count of Ponthieu William III Talvas Montgomerie

Male 1084 - 1172  (88 years)

Generations:      Standard    |    Vertical    |    Compact    |    Box    |    Text    |    Ahnentafel    |    Fan Chart    |    Media    |    PDF

Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Count of Ponthieu William III Talvas MontgomerieCount of Ponthieu William III Talvas Montgomerie was born in 1084 in Lincolnshire, England (son of 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury Robert II de Bellême de Talvas Montgomerie and Countess de Ponthieu Agnes de Ponthieu); died on 29 Jun 1172; was buried in 1172 in Gouy, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Family Search ID: KP3V-8XM

    Notes:

    Buried:
    Saint-André

    Family/Spouse: Maude Noieau. Maude was born about 1110. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. John Montgomerie was born about 1130.

    William married Alice Helia de Bourgogne about 1115. Alice was born in 1080 in Bourgogne, Meuse, Lorraine, France; died on 27 Feb 1141 in Abbaye de Perseigne, Neufchâtel, Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France; was buried in 1141 in Abbaye de Perseigne, Neufchâtel, Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Hèle Montgomerie was born in 1114 in Orne, Basse-Normandie, France; died about 1174.
    2. Count of Ponthieu Guy Montgomerie was born in 1118 in Orne, Basse-Normandie, France; died in 1147 in Turkey.
    3. Count of Alençon John Talvas Montgomerie was born in 1118 in Orne, Basse-Normandie, France; died on 24 Feb 1191 in Alençon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France; was buried in 1191 in Abbaye de Perseigne, Neufchâtel, Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France.
    4. Adèle Montgomerie was born about 1119.
    5. Philip Montgomerie was born about 1120; was buried in Abbaye de Saint-Martin, Sées, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  3rd Earl of Shrewsbury Robert II de Bellême de Talvas Montgomerie was born in 1056 in La Perche, Cher, Centre, France (son of 6th Count of Montgomerie Roger II Montgomerie and Mabel Talvas d'Alençon Bellême); died on 8 May 1119 in Dorset, England; was buried in 1119 in Abbaye de Saint-Martin, Sées, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Family Search ID: 9C9F-XG2
    • Title: 3rd Earl of Arundel
    • Title: Comte de Alençon
    • Occupation: Between 1098 and 1102, Arundel, Sussex, England; Earl of Arundel
    • Military: 1101, England; Forfeit Shrewsbury Title; Rebelled against Henry I, joined invasion of England

    Notes:

    Returned with his father, Roger II and William the Conqueror to Normandy to quell the revolt. During the seige of Fresney-le-Vicomte, Robert then only 17 years old, distinguished himself and was knighted by King William.
    Between Robert and young Duke Robert called Courte-Heuse, a great friendship grew up. Unfortunately this friendship cost the family all its domains in England.
    During the wars of session between the sons of the Conqueror, Robert of Belleme supported the eldest son Robert Courte Heuse against the younger brother Henry who had usurped the English Crown. While in the role of Ambassador for the Normans and French King Louis, he was attacked, and imprisoned. His eyes were burnt out with a white hot sword, and he died in Wharem Castle in about 1114.


    Died:
    Wareham Castle

    Robert married Countess de Ponthieu Agnes de Ponthieu before 9 Sep 1087. Agnes (daughter of Count of Ponthieu Guy de Ponthieu and Ade d'Amiens) was born about 1060 in Abbeville, Somme, Picardie, France; died about 1105 in Ain, Rhone-Alpes, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Countess de Ponthieu Agnes de PonthieuCountess de Ponthieu Agnes de Ponthieu was born about 1060 in Abbeville, Somme, Picardie, France (daughter of Count of Ponthieu Guy de Ponthieu and Ade d'Amiens); died about 1105 in Ain, Rhone-Alpes, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Family Search ID: M1HL-BR5

    Notes:

    Birth:
    Ponthieu

    Children:
    1. Rissa Montgomerie
    2. 1. Count of Ponthieu William III Talvas Montgomerie was born in 1084 in Lincolnshire, England; died on 29 Jun 1172; was buried in 1172 in Gouy, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  6th Count of Montgomerie Roger II Montgomerie6th Count of Montgomerie Roger II Montgomerie was born in 1022 in Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Calvados, Normandy, France (son of 5th Count Montgomery Roger I Montgomerie and Josceline de Pontaudemer Harcourt); died on 27 Jul 1094 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England; was buried in 1094 in Shrewsbury Abbey, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Occupation: Haute-Normandie, France; Governor of Normandy
    • Title: 1st Earl of Shrewsbury
    • Title: Comte de Alençon
    • Title: Vicount of Exmes
    • Religion: 1050, Troarn, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; Founded Church of Troarn
    • Occupation: 14 Oct 1066, Hastings, Sussex, England; Army of William the Conquerer Arrived in England
    • Occupation: Between 1074 and 1094, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England; Earl of Arundel & Shrewsbury

    Roger married Mabel Talvas d'Alençon Bellême in 1048 in La Perche, Cher, Centre, France. Mabel (daughter of Comte de Alençon William Talvas de Alençon, II and Helie de Beaumont) was born in 1026 in Alençon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France; died on 2 Dec 1092 in Dives, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; was buried on 5 Dec 1082 in Abbey of Troarn, Troarn, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Mabel Talvas d'Alençon Bellême was born in 1026 in Alençon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France (daughter of Comte de Alençon William Talvas de Alençon, II and Helie de Beaumont); died on 2 Dec 1092 in Dives, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; was buried on 5 Dec 1082 in Abbey of Troarn, Troarn, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France.

    Notes:

    Background Information.
    Mabel, who married Roger de Montgomerie in 1048, was the daughter and heiress of William de Talvas, Cout of Bellême and Alençon. These lands became part of his lands in Normandy. Mabel was killed by Hugh Seigneur de la Roche Igé, of whom Mabel had deprived of his castle. On the night of 2 Dec 1082, Hugh entered her chamber at the Châtequ de Bures, on the Dive, near troarn, and killed her with his sword. Her mutilated body was buried three days after the convent of Troarn. Her murder and his brothers left Normandy, and were never caught by Mabel's sons who pursued them.
    ~A Genealogical History of the Family of Montgomery, pg. 20

    After her murder, she was buried in Troarn Abbey. the tomb survived until the early 18th century, but by 1752 it no longer existed

    Died:
    Bures Castle

    Children:
    1. Matilda Maud Montgomerie was born in 1041 in Mortagne, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France; died in 1085 in Mortagne, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France; was buried in 1085 in Abbey of Grestain, Fatouville, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France.
    2. 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury Hugh Montgomerie was born in 1042 in Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Calvados, Normandy, France; died on 31 Jul 1098 in Montgomeryshire, Wales; was buried in 1098 in Shrewsbury Abbey, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England.
    3. 2. 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury Robert II de Bellême de Talvas Montgomerie was born in 1056 in La Perche, Cher, Centre, France; died on 8 May 1119 in Dorset, England; was buried in 1119 in Abbaye de Saint-Martin, Sées, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France.
    4. Phillip Montgomerie was born in 1056 in Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Calvados, Normandy, France; died in Jun 1098 in Hatay, Turkey.
    5. Comte de la Marche Roger III Montgomerie was born in 1058 in Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Calvados, Normandy, France; died in 1123 in Darley Abbey, Derbyshire, England; was buried in 1123 in Abbey of Grestain, Fatouville, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France.
    6. Sybill Montgomerie was born in 1058 in Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Calvados, Normandy, France; died in 1107 in Fatouville, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France.
    7. Earl of Pembroke Arnulph Cimbricus Montgomerie was born in 1060 in Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Calvados, Normandy, France; died in 1130 in France.
    8. Abbess of Almenêches Emma Montgomerie was born in 1061 in Montgomeryshire, Wales; died on 4 Mar 1112 in France.
    9. Mabel Montgomerie was born in 1064 in Montgomeryshire, Wales; died in 1085 in France.

  3. 6.  Count of Ponthieu Guy de PonthieuCount of Ponthieu Guy de Ponthieu was born in 1032 in England; died on 13 Oct 1100 in Abbeville, Somme, Picardie, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Family Search ID: L2RM-X42

    Guy married Ade d'Amiens. Ade was born in 1032 in Amiens, Somme, Picardie, France; died on 3 Mar 1066 in Abbeville, Somme, Picardie, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Ade d'Amiens was born in 1032 in Amiens, Somme, Picardie, France; died on 3 Mar 1066 in Abbeville, Somme, Picardie, France.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Family Search ID: G36D-MCT

    Children:
    1. 3. Countess de Ponthieu Agnes de Ponthieu was born about 1060 in Abbeville, Somme, Picardie, France; died about 1105 in Ain, Rhone-Alpes, France.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  5th Count Montgomery Roger I Montgomerie was born in 985 in Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Calvados, Normandy, France (son of Count of Montgomerie William Montgomerie); died in 1040 in Paris, Île-de-France, France.

    Notes:

    T H Montgomery says his name was Hugh
    B G Montgoery says his name was Roger


    Died:
    Exiled Paris, Seine, France

    Roger married Josceline de Pontaudemer Harcourt in 1010 in France. Josceline (daughter of Touroude de Pontaudemer Harcout and Weva Duceline Crépon) was born in 989 in Pont-Audemer, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France; died on 7 Feb 1050 in Pont-Audemer, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Josceline de Pontaudemer Harcourt was born in 989 in Pont-Audemer, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France (daughter of Touroude de Pontaudemer Harcout and Weva Duceline Crépon); died on 7 Feb 1050 in Pont-Audemer, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France.
    Children:
    1. Hugh Montgomerie was born about 1012 in Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Calvados, Normandy, France; died before 1050.
    2. Robert Montgomerie was born in 1014 in Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Calvados, Normandy, France; died before 1050.
    3. William Montgomerie was born in 1018 in Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Calvados, Normandy, France; died in 1047.
    4. Gilbert Montgomerie was born in 1020 in Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Calvados, Normandy, France; died in 1063 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England.
    5. 4. 6th Count of Montgomerie Roger II Montgomerie was born in 1022 in Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Calvados, Normandy, France; died on 27 Jul 1094 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England; was buried in 1094 in Shrewsbury Abbey, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England.

  3. 10.  Comte de Alençon William Talvas de Alençon, IIComte de Alençon William Talvas de Alençon, II was born about 995 (son of 1st Lord of Bellême William de Bellême and Mathilda de Condé-sur-Noireau); died in 1060.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Family Search ID: G4FS-PLC
    • Title: 2nd Lord of Bellême

    William married Helie de Beaumont. Helie (daughter of Raoul de Beaumont and G de Bellême) was born about 995. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Helie de Beaumont was born about 995 (daughter of Raoul de Beaumont and G de Bellême).
    Children:
    1. 5. Mabel Talvas d'Alençon Bellême was born in 1026 in Alençon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France; died on 2 Dec 1092 in Dives, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; was buried on 5 Dec 1082 in Abbey of Troarn, Troarn, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France.