3rd Earl of Shrewsbury Robert II de Bellême de Talvas Montgomerie

Male 1056 - 1119  (63 years)


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  • Name Robert II de Bellême de Talvas Montgomerie  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15
    Title 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury 
    Birth 1056  La Perche, Cher, Centre, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [12
    Gender Male 
    Occupation Between 1098 and 1102  Arundel, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [16
    Earl of Arundel 
    Military 1101  England Find all individuals with events at this location  [17
    Forfeit Shrewsbury Title; Rebelled against Henry I, joined invasion of England 
    Family Search ID 9C9F-XG2 
    Title 3rd Earl of Arundel 
    Title Comte de Alençon 
    Burial 1119  Abbaye de Saint-Martin, Sées, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [12
    Death 8 May 1119  Dorset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [12
    • Wareham Castle
    Notes 
    • Returned with his father, Roger II and William the Conqueror to Normandy to quell the revolt. During the seige of Fresney-le-Vicomte, Robert then only 17 years old, distinguished himself and was knighted by King William.
      Between Robert and young Duke Robert called Courte-Heuse, a great friendship grew up. Unfortunately this friendship cost the family all its domains in England.
      During the wars of session between the sons of the Conqueror, Robert of Belleme supported the eldest son Robert Courte Heuse against the younger brother Henry who had usurped the English Crown. While in the role of Ambassador for the Normans and French King Louis, he was attacked, and imprisoned. His eyes were burnt out with a white hot sword, and he died in Wharem Castle in about 1114.
    Person ID I1732  MontyHistNotes_II
    Last Modified 16 Mar 2024 

    Father 6th Count of Montgomerie Roger II Montgomerie,   b. 1022, Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Calvados, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 27 Jul 1094, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 72 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Mabel Talvas d'Alençon Bellême,   b. 1026, Alençon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 2 Dec 1092, Dives, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 66 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Marriage 1048  La Perche, Cher, Centre, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [10, 11, 18
    Family ID F642  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Countess de Ponthieu Agnes de Ponthieu,   b. Abt 1060, Abbeville, Somme, Picardie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Abt 1105, Ain, Rhone-Alpes, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 45 years) 
    Marriage Bef 9 Sep 1087  [11
    Children 
     1. Rissa Montgomerie  [Father: natural]
    +2. Count of Ponthieu William III Talvas Montgomerie,   b. 1084, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 29 Jun 1172 (Age 88 years)  [Father: natural]
    Family ID F659  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 16 Mar 2024 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 1056 - La Perche, Cher, Centre, France Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Earl of Arundel - Between 1098 and 1102 - Arundel, Sussex, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 8 May 1119 - Dorset, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Folios
    T H Montgomery - Pages 036-045   ; IX - XII
    T H Montgomery - Pages 036-045 ; IX - XII
    Genealogical History of the Family of Montgomery
    [IX - XII] John Montgomerie
    T H Montgomery - Pages 026-033
    T H Montgomery - Pages 026-033
    Genealogical History of the Family of Montgomery
    [VII] Robert Bellême de Talvas Montgomerie
    T H Montgomery - Pages 013-026   ; VI
    T H Montgomery - Pages 013-026 ; VI
    Genealogical History of the Family of Montgomery
    [VI] Roger de Montgomerie

  • Sources 
    1. [S1944] Price, Lucy Montgomery Smith, The Sydney-Smith and Clagett-Price Genealogy, (Name: Shenandoah Publishing House; Location: Strasburg, Virginia; Date: 1927;), Book found on Heritage Quest also available on Ancestry.com.

    2. [S340] Montgomery, Thomas Harrison, Genealogical History of the Family of Montgomery, (Name: Printed for Private Circulation; Location: Philadelphia; Date: 1868;), Pages 026-033 VII Robert Bellême de Talvas Montgomerie Electronic Book .PDF 170 pages a_genealogical_history_of_the_family_of_.pdf.

    3. [S3755] Biographical Information from Wikipedia, (Name: Wikipedia; Location: en.wikipedia.org;), de Ponthieu, Guy (1004-1100) Accessed KRM 6 Nov 2020 10:00a, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_I,_Count_of_Ponthieu.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_I,_Count_of_Ponthieu

    4. [S273] Montgomery, Bo-Gabriel de, Origin and History of the Montgomerys, (Name: William Blackwood and Sons, Ltd; Location: Edinburgh and London; Date: 1948;), Chapter (Page 067) Robert de Bellême - Montgomerys of Normandy.
      This book is available electronically on ancestry.com


    5. [S273] Montgomery, Bo-Gabriel de, Origin and History of the Montgomerys, (Name: William Blackwood and Sons, Ltd; Location: Edinburgh and London; Date: 1948;), Chapter (Page 078) Montgomerys, Counts of Ponthieu.
      This book is available electronically on ancestry.com


    6. [S3755] Biographical Information from Wikipedia, (Name: Wikipedia; Location: en.wikipedia.org;), de Ponthieu Montgomerie, Agnes (1060-1100) Accessed KRM 7 Nov 2020 10:53am https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes,_Countess_of_Ponthieu en.wikipedia.org.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes,_Countess_of_Ponthieu

    7. [S3755] Biographical Information from Wikipedia, (Name: Wikipedia; Location: en.wikipedia.org;), Montgomery, William III Talvas (1084-1172) Accessed KRM 7 Nov 2020 11:07am https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III,_Count_of_Ponthieu en.wikipedia.org.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III,_Count_of_Ponthieu

    8. [S3755] Biographical Information from Wikipedia, (Name: Wikipedia; Location: en.wikipedia.org;), Montgomerie, Robert II (1022-1094) Accessed KRM 10 Nov 2020 11:16am https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_de_Montgomery en.wikipedia.org.
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    9. [S3767] De Boever, Luc, The Montgommerys from the Vikings to our Present Day, (Name: l'Imprimerie Moderne de Bayeux; Location: Bayeux, France; Date: 2018;), Part 2, Section 8 Pages 35-40 Roger II Montgomerie.

    10. [S340] Montgomery, Thomas Harrison, Genealogical History of the Family of Montgomery, (Name: Printed for Private Circulation; Location: Philadelphia; Date: 1868;), Pages 013-026; VI Roger de Montgomerie Electronic Book .PDF 170 pages a_genealogical_history_of_the_family_of_.pdf.

    11. [S2784] Barns-Graham, Peter, Stirnet, (Name: Stirnet; Location: stirnet.com;), Montgomery 01 Accessed KRM 14 Nov 2020 8:45am https://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/mm4fz/montgomery01.php.
      Roger Montgomerie II
      Montgomery of Arundel, Montgomery of Shrewsbury, Counts of Alencon, Counts of Belesme, Counts of Ponthieu
      https://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/mm4fz/montgomery01.php

    12. [S3771] Abbaye de Saint-Martin, (Name: Findagrave; Location: Sées, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France;), Montgomerie, Robert II de Bellême de Talvas (1056-1119) Memorial #171531250 Accessed KRM 17 Nov 2020 6:00pm https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/171531250/robert_ii-de-montgomery.
      Abbaye de Saint-Martin
      Sees, Departement de l'Orne, Basse-Normandie, France
      https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2625597/abbaye-de-saint-martin
      The first Benedictine abbey, built in the time of Saint Évroult d'Ouche (627-707), was destroyed by Norman invasions, but restored in 1050, by Roger de Montgomery, Viscount of Exmes, who was married to Mabile Bellême Talvas, daughter of William II. The Bishop of Sees was the brother of William II Talvas.
      In the 14th and 15th centuries, the monastery suffered in the Hundred Years War, is ransomed, but invaded and the abbey church is defiled by farmers who seek asylum. It is reconsecrated in 1431. Sacked in 1556, by the Huguenots. Again restored, it was sold as national property in 1796, becoming a weaving factory. Sold back to the church, in 1834, it is again restored.
      The abbey has a rich library and valuable manuscripts including a 6th century Bible brought to the Council of Trent by Pierre Duval, bishop of Sées, and fifty manuscripts found in a hiding place of the bishop.
      https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/171531250/robert_ii-de-montgomery

    13. [S323] thePeerage.com, Montgomerie, Robert II de Bellême de Talvas Accessed KRM 17 Nov 2020 6:12pm http://www.thepeerage.com/p11647.htm#i116470 www.thepeerage.com.
      http://www.thepeerage.com/p11647.htm#i116470

    14. [S3772] Wikipedia Listing of Counts and Lords, (Name: Wikipedia;), House of Bellême Accessed KRM 18 Nov 2020 8:03am https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bell%C3%AAme en.wikipedia.org.
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    15. [S273] Montgomery, Bo-Gabriel de, Origin and History of the Montgomerys, (Name: William Blackwood and Sons, Ltd; Location: Edinburgh and London; Date: 1948;), Chapter (Page 044) Roger II - Montgomerys of Normandy.
      This book is available electronically on ancestry.com


    16. [S1619] Earl of Arundel, (Name: Wikipedia;), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Arundel.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Arundel

    17. [S276] Earl of Shrewsbury, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Shrewsbury.

    18. [S323] thePeerage.com, Montgomerie Roger II #106700 http://www.thepeerage.com/p10670.htm#i106700.