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1056 - 1119 (63 years)
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Name |
Robert II de Bellême de Talvas Montgomerie [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15] |
Title |
3rd Earl of Shrewsbury |
Birth |
1056 |
La Perche, Cher, Centre, France [12] |
Gender |
Male |
Occupation |
Between 1098 and 1102 |
Arundel, Sussex, England [16] |
Earl of Arundel |
Military |
1101 |
England [17] |
Forfeit Shrewsbury Title; Rebelled against Henry I, joined invasion of England |
Family Search ID |
9C9F-XG2 |
Title |
3rd Earl of Arundel |
Title |
Comte de Alençon |
Burial |
1119 |
Abbaye de Saint-Martin, Sées, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France [12] |
Death |
8 May 1119 |
Dorset, England [12] |
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Notes |
- Returned with his father, Roger II and William the Conqueror to Normandy to quell the revolt. During the seige of Fresney-le-Vicomte, Robert then only 17 years old, distinguished himself and was knighted by King William.
Between Robert and young Duke Robert called Courte-Heuse, a great friendship grew up. Unfortunately this friendship cost the family all its domains in England.
During the wars of session between the sons of the Conqueror, Robert of Belleme supported the eldest son Robert Courte Heuse against the younger brother Henry who had usurped the English Crown. While in the role of Ambassador for the Normans and French King Louis, he was attacked, and imprisoned. His eyes were burnt out with a white hot sword, and he died in Wharem Castle in about 1114.
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Person ID |
I1732 |
MontyHistNotes_II |
Last Modified |
16 Mar 2024 |
Father |
6th Count of Montgomerie Roger II Montgomerie, b. 1022, Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery, Calvados, Normandy, France d. 27 Jul 1094, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England (Age 72 years) |
Relationship |
natural |
Mother |
Mabel Talvas d'Alençon Bellême, b. 1026, Alençon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France d. 2 Dec 1092, Dives, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France (Age 66 years) |
Relationship |
natural |
Marriage |
1048 |
La Perche, Cher, Centre, France [10, 11, 18] |
Family ID |
F642 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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Sources |
- [S1944] Price, Lucy Montgomery Smith, The Sydney-Smith and Clagett-Price Genealogy, (Name: Shenandoah Publishing House; Location: Strasburg, Virginia; Date: 1927;), Book found on Heritage Quest also available on Ancestry.com.
- [S340] Montgomery, Thomas Harrison, Genealogical History of the Family of Montgomery, (Name: Printed for Private Circulation; Location: Philadelphia; Date: 1868;), Pages 026-033 VII Robert Bellême de Talvas Montgomerie Electronic Book .PDF 170 pages a_genealogical_history_of_the_family_of_.pdf.
- [S3755] Biographical Information from Wikipedia, (Name: Wikipedia; Location: en.wikipedia.org;), de Ponthieu, Guy (1004-1100) Accessed KRM 6 Nov 2020 10:00a, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_I,_Count_of_Ponthieu.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_I,_Count_of_Ponthieu
- [S273] Montgomery, Bo-Gabriel de, Origin and History of the Montgomerys, (Name: William Blackwood and Sons, Ltd; Location: Edinburgh and London; Date: 1948;), Chapter (Page 067) Robert de Bellême - Montgomerys of Normandy.
This book is available electronically on ancestry.com
- [S273] Montgomery, Bo-Gabriel de, Origin and History of the Montgomerys, (Name: William Blackwood and Sons, Ltd; Location: Edinburgh and London; Date: 1948;), Chapter (Page 078) Montgomerys, Counts of Ponthieu.
This book is available electronically on ancestry.com
- [S3755] Biographical Information from Wikipedia, (Name: Wikipedia; Location: en.wikipedia.org;), de Ponthieu Montgomerie, Agnes (1060-1100) Accessed KRM 7 Nov 2020 10:53am https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes,_Countess_of_Ponthieu en.wikipedia.org.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes,_Countess_of_Ponthieu
- [S3755] Biographical Information from Wikipedia, (Name: Wikipedia; Location: en.wikipedia.org;), Montgomery, William III Talvas (1084-1172) Accessed KRM 7 Nov 2020 11:07am https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III,_Count_of_Ponthieu en.wikipedia.org.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III,_Count_of_Ponthieu
- [S3755] Biographical Information from Wikipedia, (Name: Wikipedia; Location: en.wikipedia.org;), Montgomerie, Robert II (1022-1094) Accessed KRM 10 Nov 2020 11:16am https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_de_Montgomery en.wikipedia.org.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_de_Montgomery
- [S3767] De Boever, Luc, The Montgommerys from the Vikings to our Present Day, (Name: l'Imprimerie Moderne de Bayeux; Location: Bayeux, France; Date: 2018;), Part 2, Section 8 Pages 35-40 Roger II Montgomerie.
- [S340] Montgomery, Thomas Harrison, Genealogical History of the Family of Montgomery, (Name: Printed for Private Circulation; Location: Philadelphia; Date: 1868;), Pages 013-026; VI Roger de Montgomerie Electronic Book .PDF 170 pages a_genealogical_history_of_the_family_of_.pdf.
- [S2784] Barns-Graham, Peter, Stirnet, (Name: Stirnet; Location: stirnet.com;), Montgomery 01 Accessed KRM 14 Nov 2020 8:45am https://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/mm4fz/montgomery01.php.
Roger Montgomerie II
Montgomery of Arundel, Montgomery of Shrewsbury, Counts of Alencon, Counts of Belesme, Counts of Ponthieu
https://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/mm4fz/montgomery01.php
- [S3771] Abbaye de Saint-Martin, (Name: Findagrave; Location: Sées, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France;), Montgomerie, Robert II de Bellême de Talvas (1056-1119) Memorial #171531250 Accessed KRM 17 Nov 2020 6:00pm https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/171531250/robert_ii-de-montgomery.
Abbaye de Saint-Martin
Sees, Departement de l'Orne, Basse-Normandie, France
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2625597/abbaye-de-saint-martin
The first Benedictine abbey, built in the time of Saint Évroult d'Ouche (627-707), was destroyed by Norman invasions, but restored in 1050, by Roger de Montgomery, Viscount of Exmes, who was married to Mabile Bellême Talvas, daughter of William II. The Bishop of Sees was the brother of William II Talvas.
In the 14th and 15th centuries, the monastery suffered in the Hundred Years War, is ransomed, but invaded and the abbey church is defiled by farmers who seek asylum. It is reconsecrated in 1431. Sacked in 1556, by the Huguenots. Again restored, it was sold as national property in 1796, becoming a weaving factory. Sold back to the church, in 1834, it is again restored.
The abbey has a rich library and valuable manuscripts including a 6th century Bible brought to the Council of Trent by Pierre Duval, bishop of Sées, and fifty manuscripts found in a hiding place of the bishop.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/171531250/robert_ii-de-montgomery
- [S323] thePeerage.com, Montgomerie, Robert II de Bellême de Talvas Accessed KRM 17 Nov 2020 6:12pm http://www.thepeerage.com/p11647.htm#i116470 www.thepeerage.com.
http://www.thepeerage.com/p11647.htm#i116470
- [S3772] Wikipedia Listing of Counts and Lords, (Name: Wikipedia;), House of Bellême Accessed KRM 18 Nov 2020 8:03am https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bell%C3%AAme en.wikipedia.org.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bell%C3%AAme
- [S273] Montgomery, Bo-Gabriel de, Origin and History of the Montgomerys, (Name: William Blackwood and Sons, Ltd; Location: Edinburgh and London; Date: 1948;), Chapter (Page 044) Roger II - Montgomerys of Normandy.
This book is available electronically on ancestry.com
- [S1619] Earl of Arundel, (Name: Wikipedia;), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Arundel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Arundel
- [S276] Earl of Shrewsbury, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Shrewsbury.
- [S323] thePeerage.com, Montgomerie Roger II #106700 http://www.thepeerage.com/p10670.htm#i106700.
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